great. Not sure if all the parts are there.. recordings for comparitive purposes. invaluable tool for effective and accurate voicing of these old music Likewise, I can make Closed on Sunday, Monday and Tuesday. dirty governor just removed from bedplate. with thousands of nearly microscopic holes into each of which I must "repinning" of the entire cylinder- the remnants of old pins are I carnt get it to play so it is being sold to restore hence the starting bid price. This item will ship to United States, but the seller has not specified shipping options. Restoration of cylinder and disc music box mechanisms; Restoration, repair, or refinishing of music box cases; Buying and Selling Music Boxes and Parts; info@musicboxrestorations.com. Music boxes, musical clocks, automatic violin, automatic banjo, automatic harp, player grand piano, carousel … Stephen T.P. The restoration process included cleaning, polish and lacquer all the parts. The curves and angles were very difficult. All the pictured machine's several people actually get tears in their eyes at a first This is a very rare Bornand Mermod orchestra music box. an MZ-RH1. We also found that the starwheels were worn and had to be replaced.  The motor also had issues that required us to make new Geneva stop parts to replace the broken and missing parts.  After fixing the motor and going through the bedplate, all parts were cleaned, lacquered and painted.  Then we re-tuned both combs to scale.  We installed the motor and bedplate in the cabinet. I have We are working on updating our new disc machine so we can use a modern laptop computer (we were using a 286 and that is old enough that many young people won’t have a clue of what it is!) Shop address; 2 Rameslie House. Three of the missing tips were on one comb as shown below. Once this is done we will be set for the next 10 to 20 years of disc making. Much irreparable damage can be caused to a musical box or other mechanical instrument by well-meaning but inexperienced amateurs, even with an engineering background, often rendering the piece unplayable and valueless. 11.5cm!!) This work is so tedious as Shop Address; 2 Rameslie House, 61 Cinque Port Street, Rye, TN31 7AN, UK. 61 Cinque Port Street, Rye, TN31 7AN, UK. allows me to easily repeat that tone at will. We specialize in the restoration of the highest quality cylinder boxes, such as FRANCOIS NICOLE, F … Please listen to before and after the video. At the end of 2017, we saw two automatics in our shop. Recently we restored a beautiful Swiss organocleide cylinder music box. Kember B.Sc. Music boxes can be difficult to repair. Hand engraved tune card made from brass and silver plated. Here we see how the second of these boxes started in our shop.. As we normally do, we started with restoring the bedplate. Fully restored in the 1980s the music box was subsequently examined by Harrods antiques department and provided with a certificate of authenticity which is included. This was a box that hadn’t played right in sometime.  One of our first discoveries happened when we removed the bedplate from the cabinet.  Someone along the way had decided that the damper rails needed to be replaced with a combination of epoxy, wood and random heights of dampers from several different makes of boxes. The owner of this music box, purchased it at auction in Paris. When winding up a music box, the spring is compressed, and the energy is stored in the spring. Then new wire dampers were installed. Here is the results of our hard work. The cabinet was also completely restored by our cabinetmaker in Italy.  The craftsmanship of our cabinetmaker is unmatched.  It is a work of art in it self! )  It is a buyer beware market and if you are really not sure, just give me a call.  A happy music box owner is what we want you to be! If you have any questions please email me and I will do my best to answer them. This was a wonderful music box to listen to when completed.  With most Organ & Bell boxes these two often over powers the musical combs, but not his one the combs embellish the organ & bells perfectly.  I will admit it took many tries to get this done. Also, the tuned music combs often get broken teeth Cylinder Repinning. Recently we restored a beautiful Swiss organocleide cylinder music box. We restore disc and cylinder music boxes for the first-time buyer to the most discriminating collector. This is just part of what we did to make this 27 inch Regina operate correctly and sound beautifully again. Nancy Fratti Music Boxes. For reference that is a 6 inch scale being held up. Needs a lot of TLC. The restoration process included cleaning, polish and lacquer all the parts. Singing bird boxes 9,366 views. MVI 3415 converted with Clipchamp Video will antique swiss orchestral cylinder music box c. EARLY NICOLE FRERES CYLINDER New & Sealed great price of 1450 Please take a look at other great items at our ebay shop Payment for purchased item to be made no later than seven days from purchase. A cylinder music box works by having tips on a comb pluck out notes as they contact teeth on a rotating cylinder. Also the endless screw was repointed and polished. From custom cut gears, to comb sections and even entire combs, we are able to conduct all aspects of cylinder box restoration work, including cleaning, re-tuning, cylinder repinning, and governor work. Sometimes I make recordings of None of these features would be possible with tape. ... Mira or any style cylinder music is in of cleaning or even total restoration we are your one stop source for all your repair needs. Yes! Seller assumes all responsibility for this listing. EARLY NICOLE FRERES CYLINDER MUSIC BOX sounds deli . Sometimes the combs, cylinders and other parts made to play a specific tune, especially for older music boxes, can be difficult or impossible to replace. But it is magical and MiniDisc technology has proven to be an As you can see there is a lot of work that goes into such a beautiful and complicated box. This means he will not only repair the teeth, but he will polish and retune the comb, regulate the dampers, polish and lacquer the cylinder, and so on. with a given job) and locate them immediately after the "before" Shipped with USPS Priority Mail. I have seen The end result was amazing. Timbre en Vue. Antique Small SWISS Cylinder Music Musical Box For Restoration OR Spare /Repair. It has a drum, set of tuned bells. Open Wednesday to Saturday 10 am to 4pm. The arrows point to the missing tips. The music unit was then assembled. The cylinder boxes were made between 1810 and about 1900, and consisted of a brass cylinder studded with thousands of very tiny steel pins, which plucked a tuned steel music "comb" as the cylinder was rotated by a clockwork (spring) motor. Another example of restoration by Porter Music Box Company. When a customer sends an old distortion or coloration of the tones of the original instrument). Impressive cylinder of 51cm length and a diameter of about 11.5cm (that is correct!! One recent cylinder music box Wiggins worked on … (delete) tracks of boxes that for whatever reason don't sound so We rebuild antique music box governors and make any antique music box gears. This box also had somehow broken a tooth off the lift gear. Canastota, NY 13032-0400 USA PH: (315) 684-9977. Usually we end up replacing the ribbons due to rust or to lengthen the wrap around the pulleys with most ribbon lift changers. Wednesday to Saturday 10am to 4pm - NOW CLOSED ON SUNDAY, MONDAY and TUESDAY. Amazing sound with all instruments synchronized to play together, One cannot measure the satisfaction that comes from doing precise work with. etched away in an acid solution, which leaves a bare brass cylinder Thus, it is very important that I can make a reference audio Antique late 1800s cylinder music box - Duration: 3:21. Shipping and handling. and with arrangements which are so incredible one would be sure those a certain tone, for say a certain tooth of a certain comb, and also Also, I like to make "after" recordings (when I am all finished safely removed. The musical combs had their tuning recorded. When winding up a music box, the spring is compressed, and the energy is stored in the spring. I get fabulous results.                                      Â,                        Â,                                          Â. Knee is inlaid with brass, pewter, and mother of pearl. (Hons) A.M. Read the story of this Symphonion’s Restoration. (Hons) A.M.I. This is the motor and cabinet before cleaning. We specialise in the restoration and servicing of Antique Musical Boxes from the 19th and 20th century, also including vintage and novelty musical items. Herz Music Box has the only automated cylinder repinning machine in the country. A Music Box Restoration Expert’s Guide To The History of Music Boxes. The zither was recovered also and reinstalled. I use two Sony mics: the ECM-957 and thus the largest cylinder music box on the market today. world; there is nothing electronic that can even come close to the Specialist in Antique Cylinder and Disc Musical Boxes. If it is an heirloom or an expensive antique, do not attempt to repair it unless you have considerable mechanical skills and are familiar with how the mechanisms work. My collection consists of seventy-five phonographs, ten disc and cylinder music boxes… You can click on the picture to enlarge it, this will give you much better idea of how bad these combs were. Here is a video of it playing prior to restoration. Home; Disc Music Boxes; Cylinder Music Boxes; For Sale; The Process; Music Box Info; About Us; Large 17 inch Orchestre Cylinder Music Box with 12 Airs-1889. While the name of the inventor remains unknown, the first music boxes have been traced to Switzerland in the late 18th century. six years now and I LOVE MiniDisc. recording of each machine at the time it arrives as an invaluable aid 3:21. earlier ones play operatic arias or overtures in such fantastic detail and ECM-717 for my recordings, whether in the shop or in private Made in Switzerland in 1857 by the well know and early makers. They were then cleaned. Music Box Repair and Restoration. 2 tunes in 1 revolutions of the cylinder gives this mechanism an extremly fine teethed comb, comparable to overture combs. Most professionals who repair music boxes will tell you that repairing a music box is a difficult task. music box to me for repair, it is typically covered with rust, See pictures below of before and after. If your music box isn't winding up, or if the music plays slowly or not at all, there are a few things you can … Yes - this work is not cheap. Below cost at $450. With some help from our friends who sent us a rusty damper rail, we were able to design and engineer accurate upper and lower assemblies. We specialise in the restoration and servicing of Antique Musical Boxes from the 19th and 20th century, also including vintage and novelty musical items. The real amazing part was that they were both 27 inch Regina’s. With the bedplate repainted and reset up with the newly polished and tuned combs; we moved on to the motors. Specialist in Antique Cylinder and Disc Musical Boxes. Roughly half or more of the inlay is missing. introduction to a fine example of this "lost art". As experts in music box restoration, the team here at TimeKeepers know all about the history of music boxes. Here is a video of it playing prior to restoration. For a free estimate on music box restoration, please call 800-635-1938 and ask for Ron, Dwight or Ben. Cylinder Music Box for Sale: Browse TODAY's SELECTED Cylinder Music Box for SALE, BEST OFFER and Auction. Shop; 01797 225989 (please leave a message if no reply), view of the spring barrels and winding mech. Mistakes were corrected and all comb teeth were re-tuned to the correct scale. 30cm cylinder playing 12 airs as listed on original tune sheet, engine turned bells with cast brass bird strikers contained in a case with musical inlaid trophy to lid and front, boxwood stringing, Brazilian Rosewood veneer, maple border, ebonised feet. Music Box Specifics Available Tunes (Cylinder) Movements Mechanisms Available Discs and Disc Mechanisms Repair & Replacement Parts Repair & Restoration FAQ Custom music boxes Music Boxes with 30 Notes Music Boxes with 36 Notes Music Boxes with 50 Notes Music Boxes with 72 Notes Music Boxes with 144 Notes Close-Outs If you are the proud owner of an antique musical box in need of some TLC you have found the right place. other collectors' music boxes and it is great to be able to edit ... Swiss 3 tune 36 note music box repair - Duration: 2:08. completed unit in its refinished cabinet. to tuning later on after all the filth and rust or corrosion has been We have a complete professional woodworking shop for the proper restoration and finishing of antique music box cabinets. The mainspring was removed checked for cracks, cleaned, reinstalled and re-lubricated. New cabinet made and designed by a company in Italy especially for the Plerodienique movement. drive a brand new steel pin. We had to rebuild the bellows from scratch and for anyone who is thinking about do it themselves it is major undertaking and even though we have done many  thru the years it takes many hours to do a correct job.  It can’t leak any air once your done or it just won’t have the power to play the music. Cylinder pins are often broken off which requires a total Repairing a spring inside a music box cylinder depends on the type of problem the music box may have. Here is wonderful example of the quality music boxes we get to work on.  As you can see we have done a complete restoration of the beautiful instrument. A wonderful early Swiss music box made by BREMOND (serial number 1246) and playing 6 delightful airs. than 10,000 pins. The Earliest Music Boxes. The sound they produce, especially the machines made during the CLOSED The next part was to clean the motors and regrease the springs. This rare music box took several months to complete and many thousands of dollars to complete. century. corrosion, and all manner of dirt; an accumulation of more than a The dampers we borrowed to copy (top) and our new manufactured ones(below). combs. way that it sounds perfect and the repair joint is nearly invisible to Next we built a new sound board from sitka spruce.  The end result is a music box that plays with a rich mellow sound just as it did over 100 years ago.  Proper restoration insures the best results and dependability. If you have any questions regarding any make of music box please call me and we can discuss what we can do for you.  Even if you just want to get a feel for its value I’m happy to help.  Oh yes if you are on Ebay and looking to purchase a music box and are not sure about it I can help guide you with your decision making.  (Always nice to know the right questions to ask the seller! Mon.-Fri.: 10am-7pm (EST); Sat. Mech. Many of the We are also going to have for the first time ever 5 Regina Automatics in our repair shop!  This is exciting and it has motivated us to finish building 3 new Porter Automatics so if you have been wanting an Automatic but can’t find a Regina that doesn’t need a ton of repairs done to it, we have the answer for that. The governor on this music box (the governor controls the speed/tempo of the motor) was not original when we got it and we had to make many of the parts (done from pictures of it in its original state).  We had to calculate the proper gearing as it was playing way to fast with what it had and this was another one of those items where years of restoration work pays off as you can make an educated guess of what it needed to be.  It takes all lot of power to operate the music box so having the correct speed on the governor was critical. A Swiss 6 “Bells in Sight” or “Timbres en Vue” cylinder musical box by George Bendon made for the British market. Music Box Specifics Available Tunes (Cylinder) Movements Mechanisms Available Discs and Disc Mechanisms Repair & Replacement Parts Repair & Restoration FAQ Custom music boxes Music Boxes with 30 Notes Music Boxes with 36 Notes Music Boxes with 50 Notes Music Boxes with 72 Notes Music Boxes with 144 Notes Close-Outs is known today). From what i can see it is missing 4 teeth. been recording music boxes as they passed through my shop for almost You will note a considerable difference. One at a time!! Several broken tips were replaced. MD recorders extensively. long ago craftsmen must have been musical geniuses. A typical cylinder of say, 13 inches length usually will have more As the spring unwinds, the energy is released, turning the cylinder and causing the music box to sound. Some of the brass parts are stamped with a number. Heating the cylinder and re-cementing it. The governor was checked for wear and any worn bushings were replaced. return to the Cylinder Revolver Music Box Homepage. This is when the fun begins of adjusting all the parts to work  together correctly. restored unit with completely rebuilt organ bellows. I. Mech. which must be replaced and properly tuned. Antique cylinder music box Circa 1870 For Restoration Plays 6 Airs . 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